WSOP Diary Day 7: Nh, gg, wp Daniel Negreanu, k?

wsop2010_thn.jpgIf there's one thing we've come to expect from Daniel Negreanu, it's the unexpected. You see, the Team PokerStars Pro is never shy to speak his mind about all things relating to poker (and golf, food and even painful laser hair removal treatment), and his well-informed views generally kick off a healthy debate. Often there will be polarized responses, like when he explained recently why sunglasses should not be allowed at the poker table. This is a good thing - it gets issues discussed openly.

Now Negreanu has come up with a little gem that has sparked wider coverage on the forums already. On his Twitter account yesterday, he revealed:

"If you ever hear me say float, jam, k, bb's, shove, utg+1, or any similar internet speak in an interview punch me in the face. So annoying!"

It got me thinking about how poker has two camps, a bit like a family wedding when the music starts - the younger guests tend to stick together on one side of the room, while the older ones mingle with each other. Apart from the drunken uncle, of course, who struts his 'stuff' alone on the dance floor. In poker there's the 'old school' generation brought up on live poker and who have now taken to internet poker as well, and then there's the 'new breed' who were brought up on internet poker and have now also taken to playing live.

When the two come together, like they do at all live events, but particularly so at something like the World Series of Poker, it makes for an interesting mix of ages, playing styles and, of course 'poker speak'.


Daniel Negreanu

The internet guys do tend to talk in a language that would baffle some: "I'm busto - lag in seat 2 raised 450, I flatted J-Q. Flop J-high rainbow, lag c-bet 650, I smooth call. Turn Q, lag checks, I jam - he insta-shoves with a set. GG me."

Perfectly understandable to many, but it's clearly is not everyone's cup of tea. Negreanu's view in his Tweet, although a little tongue in cheek, just goes to highlight the fact that although poker brings generations together, there will always be those two schools - the old one, and the internet whizzes. So, wp Daniel for an entertaining opinion. And, folks, should you indeed hear him using internet speak in an interview, I recommend you do not punch him in the face as he suggests you should.

In other Negreanu news, his his latest blog chronicles his progress at the WSOP so far. Not great progress, it has to be said - six events played, no cashes - but he gives a good and honest account of each one.

He'll be playing the $10,000 7-Card Stud Championship today, and a section of his blog post makes for interested reading about how he took up Stud...

He writes: "I never really considered myself a great stud player, but I don't think I suck either. I remember when I was grinding back at the Mirage in my early 20's, I took it as a personal goal to learn stud. I was mainly a limit hold'em player back then, grinding in the 40-80 or 75-150 games, but when I'd wait for a seat I'd often sit in the 15-30 stud game with the locals to learn how to play. It paid off. I developed a decent feel for the game and it's definitely a game where you need to have a good feel for what's going on. You need to have your head in the game and understand what people are doing.

"There are also some nuances to tournament stud that differ from playing stud cash games. I'd say the one guy I learned the most from, in terms of stud, is definitely Ivey. He's the most aggressive stud player I'd ever played with, but playing a decent number of hours with him helped me understand the method to his madness and I incorporated a lot of that into my game."

That's sound advice, and it clearly helped Negreanu, who has finished tenth and eleventh in this event in the last two years. We'll report back on his progress tomorrow.

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In other news

Team PokerStars Pro was in action yesterday across three events. Two tournaments were getting down to the business end. In day two of the $5,000 No Limit Shootout, Chad Brown. John Duthie and Dario Minieri were looking to win their second tables and advance to the final.


Dario Minieri

None of them made it, unfortunately, all busting mid-way through play. Minieri was short-stacked but can still consider himself a little unlucky. He faced a raise from Chris Bell and moved all in for 67,000 more with A♥6♣. Bell called with K♥J♦ and the Italian was in good shape - until the flop came K♣K♠8♣, and the 2♣ turn left him drawing dead.


John Duthie (nice haircut)

All three Pros bagged $16,607 for their work on day one, but now miss out on the chance at shooting for today's $441,692 top prize. It's a great final table, featuring two Brits (no bias, obviously). Here's the final table:

1 Stuart Rutter
2 Neil Channing
3 Nicolas Levi
4 Joseph Elpayaa
5 Brent Hanks
6 Joshua Tieman

No luck either for Team PokerStars Pro in day two of the $2,500 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball, with Barry Greenstein and George Danzer falling before the money, as well as Friend of PokerStars Bill Chen. Tony G was the bubble boy in this one, which plays down to a winner today.

Yesterday was also the start of the Event #8 $1,500 No Limit Hold'em, which drew another huge field, a bumper 2,341 in all. Among them a big collection of Team PokerStars players, including Team PokerStars SportStar Boris Becker, the German making his WSOP debut this year. Despite getting up to 23,000 with aces against jacks, the former tennis champ slid back and eventually went out with A♥5♥ against Yannick Tessier's A-K.


Boris Becker

Also out were Greg Raymer, Humberto Brenes, Lex Veldhuis and current WSOP Main Event champion Joe Cada. But there was better news for Martin Hruby who bagged up 57,000 at the end of the night. Victor Ramdin also returns today with 11,400 - a stack that had been much higher after he saw a 8♥[10c]K♥4♥ board holding A♥3♥ and busted an opponent to pick up a 40,000 pot. Through, too, is Hungarian Team PokerStars Pro Richard Toth with 44,400.


Victor Ramdin

They'll be back for day two today, which also sees the start of the $1,500 Pot Limit Hold'em, which Team PokerStars Pro JP Kelly won last year for $194,000, and that $10,000 7-Card Stud World Championship.


JP Kelly

Our final piece of news comes from all the way back in London, where PokerStars was throwing a fun tournament to celebrate the launch of the PokerStars Twitter Poker League. Team PokerStars Pro Vicky Coren was attending, as well as a a collection of bloggers and a mix of celebrity lookalike players. Coren, who finished runner up, seemed to have a great time, as this picture she posted on her Twitter account shows:


Vicky Coren

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Tweets of the Day
@VictoriaCoren: Charlie Chaplin has just been obliged to flat call because he didn't say 'raise'. But, of course, he never says anything

@barrygreenstein: Out of #wsop7 twenty before the money.

@FossilMan: Out (of $1,500 NL). Got outflopped for 2K, then reraised a loose opener with A6 and ran into AJ. Cya tomorrow.

@RealKidPoker: haha I forgot about the stop and go'ed!

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Thought of the Day
Talking 'bout my (internet) generation

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WSOP Diary: Barry Greenstein mixes it up in the $50K
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